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Nov 22, 2022

Why You Should Listen: 

In this episode, you will learn about the various contributors to PANDAS and PANS and about solutions to support kids with these challenging conditions.

About My Guest:

My guest for this episode is Dr. Jill Crista.  Jill Crista, ND earned her Naturopathic Doctor Degree with Honors from the National University of Naturopathic Medicine in Portland, Oregon in 2003.  In 2012, Dr. Jill completed the Physician Training Program with the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society.   She was the owner, director, and practicing member of two integrative clinics offering naturopathic medicine, integrative medicine, acupuncture, chiropractic, physical therapy, craniosacral therapy, and massage. It was there that she witnessed the efficacy and synergy of a team approach to patient care.  As a peer-reviewed published author, Dr. Jill is now focusing on research, teaching, and writing, specializing in neuroinflammatory conditions such as mold sickness, brain injury, and PANDAS and PANS.  She serves on the board of the Wisconsin Naturopathic Doctors Association and was President for 6 years. She also worked on the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians committee for licensure where she gained experience in seeking licensure for naturopathic doctors in Wisconsin and increasing access to naturopathic healthcare nationally.  Along with Dr. Neil Nathan, Dr. Jill teaches practitioners in an ongoing mentorship with a focus on how to treat complex, chronic illnesses.  She is the author of the 2018 book "Break the Mold: 5 Tools to Conquer Mold and Take Back Your Health" and the 2022 book "A Light in the Dark for PANDAS & PANS".

Key Takeaways:

  • What are some of the key presentations of PANDAS and PANS?
  • What is the overlap of PANDAS and PANS with chronic infections and environmental toxicants?
  • How much of these conditions is about the bug as compared to the loss of immune tolerance?
  • How key is addressing the gut microbiome in recovering health for these kids?
  • What are some tools to support the autonomic nervous system, vagus nerve, and limbic system?
  • How commonly does MCAS and histamine intolerance play a role?
  • Can these conditions be treated naturally or is there a place for pharmaceuticals?
  • What microbes may be triggers for PANS?
  • In those with chronic immune deficiency, what tools might be used to fortify the immune system?
  • Does the external environment play a role?
  • What diagnostic tests can be used to more fully paint the picture of PANDAS and PANS?
  • What are the Core 4 in moving from darkness to light in PANDAS and PANS?
  • What tools might be used to "tame the flame", "beat the bugs", "regulate immunity", and "guard the gates"?

Connect With My Guest:

Related Resources:

Book: A Light in the Dark for PANDAS and PANS

Interview Date:

November 14, 2022


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